No this is not a repeat of our previous interview with Ian Urbina (@ian_urbina) from three years ago. Ian comes back on the pod to discuss the second season of The Outlaw Ocean Podcast, the audio arm of his independent non-profit news organization The Outlaw Ocean Project. We also talk about work-life balance and his old job working at the Blue Man Group.

Countries featured: China, North Korea, Libya, India, Haiti, Greece

Publication featured: The Outlaw Ocean Project, The New Yorker, The New York Times

Here are links to some of the things we talked about:

The Outlaw Ocean Podcast - https://www.theoutlawocean.com/the-outlaw-ocean-podcast/

The Firefighter with OCD - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/nyregion/firefighter-mental-health-ocd.html

Jake's bio at Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jake-spring/

 

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Release Date: 20/07/2025, 09:00:00