John Gruber's Dithering podcast with Ben Thompson was the original inspiration for Crossword's 15-minute format. Five years later, John joins Luke and Jonathan for a wide-ranging conversation covering open versus closed platforms, the history and impact of Markdown, and a missed opportunity in WordPress. Luke goes on about the good old days, Jonathan starts thinking about a rival platform, and John makes a prediction for the ten-year follow-up episode.

Episode ID: 1000716592196

GUID: https://permalink.castos.com/podcast/44416/episode/2085017

Release Date: 10/07/2025, 02:33:59