In this episode, Laurie is joined by Liesl Keen, an industrial psychologist and applied neuroscience practitioner, for a grounded conversation about navigating uncertainty, rebuilding identity, and developing real resilience when life no longer looks the way you expected.

After spending 20 years in the corporate world, Liesl shares her personal experience of leaving structure and certainty behind, facing an identity crisis, and learning how stress, self-doubt, and overwhelm affect the brain. Together, they explore why uncertainty often hits our sense of self before anything else, and how resilience is built through nervous system regulation, self-awareness, and small, consistent actions.

This conversation unpacks:

Why pushing through is not resilience

How stress shuts down clear thinking and decision-making

The role identity plays when we're navigating career or life change

How the brain's neural networks influence confidence, focus, and burnout

Practical ways to regulate stress and rebuild self-trust during uncertain seasons

This episode is for anyone who feels stuck in an in-between phase… when the old version of you no longer fits, but the next one hasn't fully formed yet.

🎧 Listen now for a science-backed, human approach to navigating uncertainty without burning out or losing yourself.

Episode ID: 1000745286486

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Release Date: 15/01/2026, 12:46:00