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Max Agency

Released: 2026-04-09
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2 Episodes
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Listen on Apple Podcasts
Released: 2026-04-09
© LangChain
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How Hex Builds AI Agents: Making Agents Reason Like Human Data Analysts | Izzy Miller, AI Engineer

How Hex Builds AI Agents: Making Agents Reason Like Human Data Analysts | Izzy Miller, AI Engineer

Izzy Miller is an AI engineer at Hex, an AI analytics platform that was one of the first companies to ship data agents to real paying users. Today, Hex runs a multi-agent system with nearly 100K tokens of tools, and Izzy is building a 90-day simulation
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Izzy Miller is an AI engineer at Hex, an AI analytics platform that was one of the first companies to ship data agents to real paying users. Today, Hex runs a multi-agent system with nearly 100K tokens of tools, and Izzy is building a 90-day simulation to evaluate whether those agents actually get smarter over time. In this conversation, he walks through the harness decisions that shaped their architecture, the failure modes Hex is seeing at scale, and what it takes to build an eval that no current model can pass.
We also discuss:
Why data agents are harder to verify than coding agentsUnder the hood of Hex’s agentsHow Hex is unifying separate agentsWhy most eval sets are badThe 90-day simulation for long-horizon evalsHow Izzy went from marketing to AI engineer
References:
Andon LabsAnthropicBarry McCardelChatGPTClaude CodeClaude Sonnet 4.6DBTGPT-3.5 TurboGPT-5.3 Codex SparkGPT-5.4HexLangChainLangSmithLookerOpenAIOpus 4.6Satya NadellaSnowflakeVending Machine
Where to find Izzy:
LinkedInTwitter/X
Where to find Harrison:
LinkedInTwitter/X
Where to find LangChain:
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Send feedback or questions to maxagency@langchain.dev
Timestamps:
01:35 Where Hex's notebook agent started
03:46 The moment Hex knew it was time for agents
07:36 Why data agents are harder to verify than coding agents
09:30 How Hex is unifying separate agents
13:28 Under the hood of the notebook agent
15:41 The harness features that are now holding the agent back
17:41 Why Hex built their own orchestrator
18:59 Managing nearly 100K tokens of tools
20:49 Ephemeral queries and agent behavior trade-offs
24:46 The UX problem with showing agents' thinking
27:28 Why verification is harder than transparency for data agents
31:00 Memory, context conflicts, and collapse modes
34:38 How Hex built their internal eval system
39:29 Why most eval sets are bad
44:30 The 900% quota eval that every model fails
46:55 Model upgrades and the "in distribution" debate
51:34 How Izzy went from marketer to AI engineer
59:59 The 90-day simulation for long-horizon evals
Episode ID: 1000760489140
GUID: a9f9dfd9-c3c5-4ac1-9aec-d97cad9b0f7a
Release Date: 09/04/2026, 17:00:00

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Welcome to Max Agency, a podcast about how the best AI agents are actually being built. Hosted by Harrison Chase, CEO of LangChain, each episode goes deep with the builders designing, deploying, and learning from real agent systems in the wild. From architecture decisions to evals, tooling, and failure modes, Max Agency is for people who want to understand what it really takes to build useful agents.

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